In God We Trust Posters 10/1/07

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Kiyoshi Tomono — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:00:26 GMT

From Jeffrey:
My child will NEVER attend a High School that has the phrase "In God We Trust" in ANY classroom.

Religion belongs in one place and in one place only: Church.

Chad Vegas needs to be removed from the Kern High School District Board. Not everyone believes in God, or even religion, for that matter, and neither should be shoved down children's throats. God does not belong in a public school. That's what Garces High School, and other private High Schools are for.

I hope Vegas gets recalled.

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Yvonne — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:23:07 GMT

I'm sorry if not everyone believes in God. However our country is already going to hell in a handbakset. Why not bring this into our schools. After all to those who do not believe in God, you sure don't have a problem using our money that this is printed on, do you?

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Yvonne — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:23:08 GMT

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Kiyoshi Tomono — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:31:49 GMT

From Phillip:
I think as americans we dropped the ball for our youth by allowing people to take God our of our schools, its time we fight back and put God back in our schools.Mabe our schools will then be less violent.

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Kiyoshi Tomono — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:32:12 GMT

From Jennifer:
As a history teacher in the Kern High School district myself, I wouldn't have a problem with the poster if I thought that Mr. Vegas' proposal was not religiously motivated. But Vegas has shown that his agenda is always religious - his 2 big ideas for the district so far have been changing spring break to Easter break & hanging posters about God in the classroom. It's about time he brings some ideas which actually help our teachers and students succeed to the board room.

Jennifer

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Kiyoshi Tomono — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:36:18 GMT

From Monica:
in response to "Jeffrey":

To say that your child will never attend a school with "IN GOD WE TRUST" is like saying that your child wont earn or spend any money with the same words on it. It is the motto of our country and nobody is "shoving" anything down anyones throat. I dont believe in prayer in our schools or other similar activities, however the country's motto of IN GOD WE TRUST should be allowed.

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Kiyoshi Tomono — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:44:48 GMT

From Marjorie:
Yes, we need to put "In God We Trust " in every classroom!! We were born as a Christian nation and have failed to remain as such. Our young people need God in their lives to overcome some of the disgusting attitudes and behaviors they engage in today.

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Marilyn — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:00:37 GMT

I believe "In God We Trust" should be posted. I am not of the Christian Faith, but this is what our country was founded on. If we lived in another country we would have to comply with their rules and mottos. We don't have to believe but we would have to comply.

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jusomeguy — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:10:37 GMT

The motto should be amended to:

In God We Trust-All others please pay cash

This issue will always inflame those who take no responibility for the actions of themselves or others but place blame or praise a non-present supreme being (do they ever just look around the world at inhumanity?) or give thanks to a JEwish man who died over 2000 years ago.
I fail to see what this motto in classroom will be expected to accomplish. Our kids benefit from moral guidance in the home. Such guidance is, in my opinion, sadly missing in many homes. It's THAT guidance that lets you "Just Say NO" and not some silly motto on a wall.
I may be wrong but I think IN God We Trust was adopted in the '50s. HOwever did we get along in those years before that?

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Kiyoshi Tomono — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:52:20 GMT

jusomeguy--
Very provocative. Don't think we've tackled this issue from that angle. Playing devil's advocate: if Muslim's come forward and push for In Allah We Trust, is that acceptaple as well? How about the polythesit who says she wants 'In Gods We Trust?" on the wall?

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Kiyoshi Tomono — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:05:47 GMT

From Pam:
This country does not reflect its beginnings, unlike others who stand fast in theirs. Our intensity, in our quest to be number 1, we have forgotten our founding fathers intentions, in regard to oppression, violence,and most of all, our beloved freedom. We appear to be evolving into a people who have lost the values we once held most dear. We forget the reason we sailed away in search of this this country to escape this very thing. The politicians and the leaders of this great nation need to reaffirm the respect and trust we once had in them. If it wasn't broken to begin with, why on earth have they been trying to fix it? In whatever "god" you believe in, it still remains, "In God We Trust."

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dlhill661 — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:19:30 GMT

This is just another one of those confrontational acts surrounding politicized issues, like medical marijuana dispensaries, that will become yet another frivolous lawsuit clogging up the legal system. When it is struck down by the Court this person will decry the activist judges who dictate policy from the bench. This person's time would be better spent working with our elected representatives to try and change the law within established structures if he (she) feels so strongly about this.

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creepykat — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:29:05 GMT

My kid will not become a fanatical Jesus freak if the sign is in her classroom. She will not become an amoral godless athiest if it is not. "In God We Trust" is our national motto, is non-denominational, and all-inclusive. I can think of more serious issues pertaining to our schools to rant about.

That said, I don't have confidence in the motives of the proposal. I am uncomfortable with a non-profit organization participating in my kid's education, however remotly. The scariest aspect of this proposal is not an inconsequential sign, but what's next?

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loislane — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:25:26 GMT

OUR ANCESTORS CAME TO AMERICA IN ORDER TO WORSHIP THE WAY THEY WANTED. WE CALL THIS "FREEDOM OF RELIGION." IT MEANS THAT ALL AMERICANS AND ALL IMMIGRANTS TO THIS NATION MAY WORSHIP AS THEY PLEASE. A POSTER THAT STATES "IN GOD WE TRUST" DOES NOT SPEAK TO ALL AMERICANS. PERHAPS ANOTHER POSTER THAT PROMOTES BELIEF IN ONES SELF OR A "CAN DO" ATTITUDE MIGHT BE IN ORDER.
robin.....

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Janay — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 04:37:12 GMT

Too much attention being spent on this issue that has no bearing on education.
It seems to me that education is the point for sending our children to school. I remember when my boys were in school. When they came home, instead of taking care of things at home, or other interests, or just relaxing after a long day at school, they had a huge amount of homework. Time spent at school being educated should be used more effectively, and in our diverse nation each family sets their own values anyway.

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jenny81 — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:58:46 GMT

The idea that there is a patriotic reason behind this agenda, is ludicrous. This is the same man who had Winter break changed to Christmas break, and Spring break to Easter break. This town, and country is becoming more diverse all the time. As a result an attempt to mix church and state is naturally going to be offensive to many people, and it should be. If for any reason Chad Vegas, who we all need to keep in mind is a Christian minister, had patriotism as the end goal, perhaps the idea may be more negotiable. A student in this country of diversity and freedom should be well versed on our nations documentations...however, if religion is the underlying motivation, I'm afraid that prayer in school may be Mr.Vegas' next order of business.
It is unfair to ask children of a different faith to uphold the value of "In God We Trust". How about, instead of investing in the time and money to put this motto in every classroom, we invest in books and supplies for the classroom. With ample classroom provisions, teachers will no longer have to send home lists of supplies a student will need, or even items a teacher needs. Perhaps equality can indeed pervade the classroom, and those who can't afford to contribute, would already have what they needed. You know..."No Child Left Behind"!

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vettebaby — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:16:39 GMT

Our fore fathers bellieved in God, all they didn't want was a national religion like they had in England. That is what they meant by seperation of state and religion, freedom of religion. Do any of you realize that back when this country was new there was a major building in the villages, this building was use for church service on Sundays, school during the week, and town meetings in the evenings. That is how they handled seperation of state and religion, maybe we should try that method would save a lot of money on all the government buildings.

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MaryannFleming — Fri, 23 May 2008 20:50:25 GMT

People always want to complain about things that are not bothering anyone because they are too afraid to complain about things that are scary. Like talking about the wanna be gangsters who tag up places and hurt people.. why not make a bigger deal on that than a big deal on trying to change something that is historical.
In God We Trust is not hurting anyone. God, is what the people who help create the United States of America believed in. Leave it alone.
How would you like it if a few people didn't believe in the your last name and made it a big deal to band it from ever being used and you were to have to change it. But to you your last name has meaning, it has history. I am sure you would want to fight
to keep you last name.
Respect The United States Of America and for what is stand.
God Bless America and those who are fighting in war.